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Mahomes or Allen (Again???) and a Clippers-Heavy Mailbag

Sep 8, 20261h 48mNFLNBAChiefsBillsPatriotsClippersCommanders76ersMailbag

TL;DR

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  • Nick Wright says Josh Allen being the consensus best QB is unprecedented: no Super Bowl trip, no first-team All-Pro, and a four-turnover playoff loss last time out. Bill compares it to the 1999 NBA MVP void left by a slumping, injured Mahomes.
  • On the Chiefs' post-ACL season: Bill pulled his Chiefs under bets because he can still see them winning 10 or 11 games. Nick thinks they'll be good, compares the year to 2022 after the Tyreek Hill trade, and may be the only person in the media picking them to win the Super Bowl.
  • In the Clippers mailbag, Bill's theory is that a soft settlement was close until the Clippers leaked the ESPN 'no smoking gun' story and Adam Silver dropped the hammer. Both agree the penalties sink the franchise until around 2036 while Kawhi gets away to Toronto.
  • Also covered: Jayden Daniels is too skinny and Washington should be bad, the Rams' and Niners' approaches to the Australia trip, Nick's new Sixers season tickets since the LeBron signing, and whether Ben Simmons lasts with the Kings.

Segments

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  1. 00:00

    Intro

    Bill lays out a four-podcast week. He'll be live on Netflix after Patriots–Seahawks on Wednesday, and he and Joe House will do their Week 1 show and Ringer 107 picks after Rams–Niners on Thursday. He also mentions his fantasy draft, a Red Sox winning streak, and his hope that the Patriots finally pay their All-Pro cornerback.

  2. 00:01

    A Josh Allen and Chiefs discussion

    Nick argues that no consensus top quarterback has ever had a résumé as thin as Allen's. He calls Allen's signature win a loss, the 13-seconds game, and walks through four straight playoff exits capped by the turnover-filled Denver loss. Bill counters with Manning-vs-Brady parallels and calls it a 'reverse yeah-but,' where nothing is ever Allen's fault. They compare Mahomes's injury and slump to the post-2007 Patriots. Nick hopes Kenneth Walker forces teams out of light boxes, though Josh Simmons possibly missing Week 1 against Denver worries him. Both vent about New England not paying Christian Gonzalez, and Bill says he's prepared for a trade. Bill doubts Kelce has much left. Nick tells the story of Kevin Wilds throwing up after half a cigarette, and Bill calls the Patriots a live dog against Seattle. Nick closes by noting Vegas likes the Chiefs far more than the media does, and he warns of big overreactions if Mahomes looks different after the ACL.

  3. 00:36

    Mailbag

    A Clippers-heavy run comes first. Topics include Ballmer 'marrying the nanny' by blowing past the second apron, what would happen if he showed up to games anyway, and whether ESPN and Pablo Torre could both have been right. Bill explains his leaked-settlement theory, and both say the Dodgers story matters more. Nick calls the Kawhi trade the worst transaction in NBA history. They debate the biggest off-court villains (Donaghy, John Green, David Falk), consider whether Kawhi sat out over missing side money, and agree he's likelier than Durant to get a statue. Bill thinks the Clipper curse may require a move. They also pitch running the lottery with the Clippers in it anyway. The rest of the mailbag covers Jayden Daniels's durability and a bleak Commanders outlook, the Australia travel experiment, a 'Scottie Pippen Award' for movies, the Tupac verdict, and Ben Simmons joining the Kings (Nick thinks he makes it to opening day). Nick defends LeBron's durability as a new Sixers season-ticket holder, and they joke about LeBron getting his own train. They close with the Mighty Ducks sentencing question, whether explosive above-the-rim guards are extinct (Nick wants dunks worth three and custom three-point lines), and overplayed songs like Sweet Caroline and Mr. Brightside.

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