The Patriots Are Back, the Chargers Are Done, and More Week 4 Story Lines

GilSo people are having that conversation. I think that we all would be surprised coming into week four that we are viewing Mike McDaniel in a similar light as we are viewing Davis Webb in terms of which head coach is going to make a change or make an adjustment with the situation with their offensive coordinator first.

GilThe Broncos or the Chargers? Two teams with both, I don't think either of those teams would be thought of in this position right now.

KapadiaWell, the other thing is, I mean, with Herbert, it's like at some point he does have to be accountable here. You know, Jim Harbaugh has never won fewer than what he's won, 11 games in five of the six NFL seasons. He's never had a losing record and he's 0 -4 right now. To your point, you know, Mike McDaniel was viewed as a smart, bright offensive mind.

KapadiaLook at what he did with Tua and that Miami offense. And now he comes to the Chargers and the offense doesn't look good. I mean, how many coaches is Herbert going to have to go through or offensive? And again, as I've said before, I'm someone who likes Herbert. I think it's going to happen for him eventually.

KapadiaBut to be fair about it, at some point, when the coach keeps getting fired, when the coordinator keeps getting fired, when you're cycling in different offensive linemen and different pass catchers and it still doesn't happen. Well, the one constant is the quarterback who we all know is talented and has been very good at times and not so good at times and probably underwhelming when you look at the career as a whole based on the talent.

KapadiaIt's fair. It's not a hot take to be like, all right, we do have to look at that guy a little bit and wonder why these other pieces are never working.

PelisseroBroncos still trying to figure things out, find their rhythm. We'll talk about them, talk about some other teams that have underachieved, some quarterbacks who have overachieved, a lot more. She'll's got his, what is it again?