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GoldsberryWell, they're not winning that this year. This is just super awkward. I was going to ask you if you could remember. You said Sean Kemp, but it's like I couldn't. I haven't seen something go this sideways, this fast with a young All -NBA player like this for a rising team in a long time.

BillYeah, usually it's like a Vince Carter type of situation where somebody's unhappy or T -Mac in Orlando. This happened a lot in the 2000s, but the guys already had the money at that point.

BillThis almost feels like the disrespect is such a huge piece of this.

BillI look at them like, I didn't think they had any chance of winning 60. I don't really like what they did this offseason. Right, even like I look at the lack of, they basically have one shot greater, right?

BillBut Tobias, who is now on San Antonio, who is always everyone's glass half empty on him all the time. But Tobias, at least they could go to him and he could hit a shot, which especially in the playoffs, like when either Cade was out or Cade was struggling, like at least you had somewhere else to go.

BillI don't know where they go now.

BillYeah.

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