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Kapadiayou go. I remember 2018, they beat the Texans. Nick Foles throws for 471 yards, going over talking to Lane Johnson. I think it was a small group over at his locker at that time. And he starts talking about being snubbed from the Pro Bowl. And he says like, I drove to the facility at 2.30 a.m.

KapadiaAnd I was like laughing. I thought he was joking around. He was not joking around. He actually drove to the facility at 2.30 a.m. He was so mad that he didn't get named to the Pro Bowl. He slept in the locker room. He waited for everybody to show up. He went to meetings.

KapadiaHe went to the cafeteria after that. And he was just like, yeah, I'm a weird guy. There are things that drive me. I feel like I don't get respect. It was just like, man, this guy is wired differently. And he eventually got that recognition. Although even this summer, he was saying, he still doesn't think he gets the recognition.

KapadiaHe'll get the recognition, I think, when he goes into the Hall of Fame. and that will be meaningful for him. I also thought ZB, underrated teammate. I wonder what you think about this. I always thought he was one of the great teammates that I covered. Like when you asked him about going up against Steven Means, remember, as you know, at practice, I mean, he would prop up his teammates to a great degree.

KapadiaEven when things weren't going great for some of his teammates, he was always a good person to talk to. It always felt like he had their back in a very authentic way. not an oh I'm going to talk to the media and prop him up but just like it felt like everybody in the locker room um got along with him he could connect to different people there even quarterbacks who aren't playing well did you did you feel that same

Kapadiaway you you've covered him longer yeah very

Bermanmuch and I I didn't think it was underrated um but I I suppose it is because I think it's it's part of it's part of who he is uh and I'll have two comments for that first off you said it well he connected with players of different ages, different position groups, different backgrounds.

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