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Not saying the Pacers are, because I think the Pacers are firmly going to give this thing a run. You know, I think they're one of the few teams that feels very comfortable with the personnel that they have and they want to give it a try. That's why I'm not necessarily worried about them.

I think they're firmly, I think,

I don't think they're going to be a playing team next year. No, but I do want to remind people, they were up in game seven of the NBA finals, but that was a 50 -win team. It's not like they won 62 games a year. They surprised people by going to those conference finals.

WindhorstSo I just think you've got to keep that in perspective. I do think that they've got a chance to be a top five type of defense. I mean, you talk about Nimhard, Neesmith, Siakam, Zubats. That's a pretty damn strong defensive quartet.

WindhorstUnderrated signing of Kelly Oubre. I liked that signing, number one.

WindhorstI think Rick Carlisle, the job that Rick Carlisle did coaching, and there was a lot that was going into that Pacers playoff run.

WindhorstObviously, Halliburton made a number of clutch shots, and there was, you know,

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