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MacMahonUnfortunately, Derek Lively is not going to be ready for camp.

WindhorstYeah, I was going to say, I don't know when Jackson's rolling this out. We may have, like, a more formal update from the team by that time. Yeah, which we will by on media day. But you have reported he won't be ready for starting camp.

MacMahonYeah, and what I reported, and this is, what is this, September 24th as we're doing this, is his status for the start of the regular season is to be determined.

MacMahonI think we can all do medical math and understand, like, he's probably not going to be out there for the start of the season. Now, the priority is not maximizing the number of games that he plays. It's maximizing his chances of having a long, successful career. So obviously, they're going to be patient.

MacMahonAnd it's not a setback. This is just a young guy who had two foot surgeries in 14 months.

WindhorstRight. So his most recent, just to get a timeline, he most recently, he had surgery in July of 25.

WindhorstAnd then again in

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